(Commodore 8bit) 1541 CHIPS VS SYMPTOMS and DIAGNOSTIC TESTS

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1541 CHIPS VS SYMPTOMS and DIAGNOSTIC TESTS

latest additions and corrections: 4-8-06

This list represents the most common versions of the 1541 in the

standard brown case with PC board numbers 1540050 (early ALPS

push-down door mechanism) and the 251830 and 251777 (Newtronics

twist door mechanism).

Although the very early "long board" (white case) 1541 is not

represented here, major chip functions are of course similar. That

drive used more TTL (so-called "glue logic") chips that were later

"integrated" into a single motor control IC. Although functionally

identical, newer drives such as the 1541C and 1541-II integrate more

functions into fewer more specialized IC's, making repair parts even

harder to find.

Although most of the chips in the different versions of the

standard brown case 1541 are the same, board layout and some chip ID

numbers may be different. To eliminate confusion, I will list the two

major versions of the drive separately.

At the end of this article, I will give you some troubleshooting

hints and things to look for when you are trying to pin down a

particular fault. Before suspecting IC chips, don't overlook more

common causes of problems such as dirty R/W heads. Always check the

"easy stuff" first.

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1541 CHIPS VS SYMPTOMS

PCB# 1540050 (early version) with ALPS drive mechanism (1982)

UA1 74LS14 LOGIC

Partial failure common cause of "FILE NOT FOUND" error. Total

failure: when drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor

runs continuously (check also UB4, UC2, UC4, UC5, UC6, UD3, and UD5).

UB1 7406 (M53206P) LOGIC

Partial failure most common causing "SEARCHING FOR" (also check

UC3), or "DEVICE NOT PRESENT". Total failure: drive may power up

normally, but will not reset when the computer is turned on.

UB2 TMM2016AP-10 16K RAM

TMM2116AP-15 or MB8128-15

When drive powered up, motor runs continuously and red LED flashes

slowly (about 1 flash every 2 seconds).

UB3 325302-01 DOS ROM

When drive powered up, red LED flashes 3 times repeatedly.

UB4 901229-03 or -05 DOS ROM

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. DOS ROM is a common failure. Check also UA1, UC2, UC4,

UC5, UC6, UD3, and UD5.

UC1 325572-01 MOTOR CONTROLLER

When drive powered up, red LED comes on and goes out, but spindle

motor does not turn. When LOAD attempted, spindle does not turn, red

LED flickers, screen displays "FILE NOT FOUND" and red LED flashes.

UC2 6522 VIA (MOTOR CONTROL INTERFACE)

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC4, UC5, UC6, UD3, and UD5.

UC3 6522 VIA (SERIAL INTERFACE)

Drive powers up and resets normally. When LOAD attempted, screen

indicates "SEARCHING FOR ...", but no motors run and red LED does not

light.

UC4 6502 MPU

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC2, UC5, UC6, UD3, and UD5.

UC5 74LS04 (74LS14) LOGIC

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC2, UC4, UC6, UD3, and UD5.

UC6 74LS00 LOGIC

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC2, UC4, UC5, UD3, and UD5.

UC7 74LS42P LOGIC (DECODER)

When drive powered up, motor runs continuously and red LED flashes

slowly (about 1 flash every 2 seconds). Red LED may stay on and/or

motor may stop.

UD1 7406 (M53206P) LOGIC

When drive powered up or reset, spindle motor runs momentarily, but

red LED doesn't come on. When LOAD attempted, screen indicates

"SEARCHING FOR ..." but red LED does not light, spindle runs

continuously, and screen shows "FILE NOT FOUND" error.

UD2 7417 LOGIC (R/W CONTROL BUFFER)

When drive powered up or reset, red LED comes on and goes out, but

spindle motor does not turn. If LOAD is attempted, red LED comes on,

stepper moves slightly, spindle doesn't turn, screen shows "FILE NOT

FOUND" and red LED flashes.

UD3 74LS86 LOGIC

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC2, UC4, UC5, UC6, and UD5.

UD4 9602 (8602) LOGIC (MMV)

Drive powers up and resets normally, but if LOAD is attempted,

spindle motor runs with red LED out. Screen displays "SEARCHING FOR

..." and stepper does not move. Check also UE6.

UD5 74LS197 (74177) LOGIC (TIMER)

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC2, UC4, UC5, UC6, and UD3.

UE4 LM311 COMPARITOR (READ LOGIC)

Powers up normally. When LOAD attempted, spindle turns and red LED

comes on, but "FILE NOT FOUND" and red LED flashes. Check also UF3

and UF4.

UE6 74LS193 (7417) LOGIC (BIN COUNTER)

Drive powers up and resets normally, but if LOAD is attempted,

spindle motor runs with red LED out. Screen displays "SEARCHING FOR

..." and stepper does not move. Check also UD4.

UF3 NE592N READ PREAMPLIFIER

Powers up normally. When LOAD attempted, spindle runs and red LED

comes on, but "FILE NOT FOUND" and red LED flashes. Check also UE4

and UF4.

UF4 NE592N READ AMPLIFIER

Powers up normally. When LOAD attempted, spindle runs and red LED

comes on, but "FILE NOT FOUND" and red LED flashes. Check also UE4

and UF3.

VR1 UA7812KC (LM340KC-12) +12 VOLT REGULATOR

Drive powers up "normally", but motors run slowly or not at all.

If that happens, drive access will produce a flashing red activity

LED and errors "file not found" or "drive not ready" on the error

channel.

VR2 UA7805KC (LM340KC-5.0) +5 VOLT REGULATOR

Green (power) LED dim, flickers, or does not come on at all, but

spindle may run continuously and red LED may be dark.

CR1 2 AMP 200V BRIDGE RECTIFIER (FOR +12V)

Drive appears to power up normally, but motors do not run. Should get

warm only if the drive is being accessed (motors running).

CR3 2 AMP 200V BRIDGE RECTIFIER (FOR +5V)

On power up, green and red LED's are dim or dark and spindle motor

runs continuously. May be intermittant and "die" after warmup. Part

runs very hot normally and is a common failure in this model.

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1541 CHIPS VS SYMPTOMS PCB# 251830 or 251777 with Newtronics drive

mechanism (1984)

UA1 74LS14 LOGIC

Partial failure common cause of "FILE NOT FOUND" error. Total

failure: when drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor

runs continuously (check also UB4, UC2, UC4, UC6, UC7, UD3, and UD5).

UB1 7406 (M53206P or 7707) LOGIC

Partial failure common cause of "SEARCHING FOR" (check also UC3)

and "DEVICE NOT PRESENT" errors. Total failure: drive powers up OK,

but does not respond to computer... no reset or disk access.

UB2 TMM2016AP-10 16K RAM

TMM2116AP-15 or MB8128-15

When drive powered up, spindle motor runs continuously and red LED

flashes about once every two seconds.

UB3 325302-01 DOS ROM

When drive powered up, red LED flashes 3 times repeatedly.

UB4 901229-03 or -05 DOS ROM

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. DOS ROM is a common failure. Check also UA1, UC2, UC4,

UC6, UC7, UD3, and UD5.

UC1 325572-01 MOTOR CONTROLLER

When drive powered up or reset, red LED comes on and goes out, but

spindle motor does not turn. When LOAD attempted, spindle does not

turn, red LED flickers, screen displays "FILE NOT FOUND" and red LED

flashes.

UC2 6522 VIA (MOTOR CONTROL INTERFACE)

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC4, UC6, UC7, UD3, and UD5.

UC3 6522 VIA (SERIAL INTERFACE)

Drive powers up and resets normally. When LOAD is attempted, screen

indicates "SEARCHING FOR ...", but no motors run and red LED does not

light.

UC4 6502 MPU

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC2, UC6, UC7, UD3, and UD5.

UC6 74LS04 (7713) LOGIC

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC2, UC4, UC7, UD3, and UD5.

UC7 74LS00 LOGIC

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC2, UC4, UC6, UD3, and UD5.

UC8 74LS42 LOGIC

When drive powered up, spindle motor runs continuously. Red LED may

stay on, or flash three times and go out.

UD1 7406 (M53206P) LOGIC

When powered up, spindle motor runs momentarily, but red LED

doesn't come on. When LOAD attempted, screen indicates "SEARCHING FOR

..." but red LED does not light and spindle runs continuously.

UD2 7407 (7417) LOGIC (R/W CONTROL BUFFER)

When drive is powered up or reset from computer, red LED comes on

and goes out, but spindle motor does not turn. When LOAD is

attempted, stepper moves slightly, spindle doesn't turn, and error

message on screen is "FILE NOT FOUND" with flashing red LED.

UD3 74LS86 LOGIC

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC2, UC4, UC6, UC7, and UD5.

UD4 9602 (74123) LOGIC (MMV)

Drive powers up and resets normally, but when LOAD is attempted,

screen indicates "SEARCHING FOR ..." red LED does not light and

spindle runs continuously. Check also UE6.

UD5 74LS197 (74177) LOGIC (TIMER)

When drive powered up, red LED stays on and spindle motor runs

continuously. Check also UA1, UB4, UC2, UC4, UC6, UC7, and UD3.

UE4 LM311 COMPARITOR (READ)

Drive powers up and resets normally. Spindle motor runs, stepper

moves slightly, but "FILE NOT FOUND" error, and red LED flashes.

Check also UF3 and UF4.

UE6 74LS193 (7417 or 7407) LOGIC (COUNTER)

Drive powers up and resets normally, but when LOAD is attempted,

screen indicates "SEARCHING FOR ..." red LED does not light and

spindle runs continuously. Check also UD4.

UF3 NE592N (LM592) READ PREAMP

Drive powers up and resets normally. Spindle motor runs, stepper

moves slightly, but "FILE NOT FOUND" error and red LED flashes. Check

also UF4 and UE4.

UF4 NE592N (LM592) READ AMPLIFIER

Drive powers up and resets normally. Spindle motor runs, stepper

moves slightly, but "FILE NOT FOUND" error and red LED flashes. Check

also UF3 and UE4.

VR1 UA7812KC (LM340KC-12) +12 VOLT REGULATOR

When powered up, green power LED comes on and red LED comes on and

goes out normally, but motors do not run (or move slowly). Drive

access will produce a flashing red activity LED and error messages

"file not found" or "drive not ready" on the error channel.

VR2 UA7805KC (LM340KC-5.0) +5 VOLT REGULATOR

Green (power) LED dim, flickers, or does not come on at all. Drive

appears dead, but spindle motor runs continuously.

CR1 2 AMP 200V BRIDGE RECTIFIER (FOR +5V)

Drive appears dead, but spindle motor runs continuously with both

green and red LEDs dim or dark. May be intermittant and fail after

warmup. This part normally runs hot and is a common failure item.

CR3 2 AMP 200V BRIDGE RECTIFIER (FOR +12V)

Drive appears to power up normally, but motors do not run. Should get

warm only if drive is accessed (motors running).

Notes: UC2, UC3, UB4, and regulators VR1 and VR2 run warm normally

and bridge rectifiers CR1 and CR3 run very hot if drive is

being accessed. Otherwise, only CR3 will get hot.

Newtronics drives (twist type door latch) normally run a bit noiser

(stepper chatter) than earlier ALPS (push down door) types.

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DIAGNOSTICS... WHAT TO LOOK FOR

When you are troubleshooting a drive, it is important to observe it

closely (with the cover off) for symptoms. For example, note how the drive

motors and indicator LED's function when the drive is powered up, reset,

and accessed by the computer. When the drive is instructed to LOAD a

program, note whether the stepper moves, how much it moves, and if it

"chatters". Try various functions like Initialize and observe the results.

Sometimes the clues to a malfunction are subtle. In some cases, as many as

eight different chips can cause the same symptom.

If your drive suddenly goes "dead" and you can't read disks without

"FILE NOT FOUND" errors, try the Initialize command:

OPEN15,8,15 (assuming drive is device 8)

PRINT#15,"I0"

CLOSE15

This command (or formatting a disk) will return the heads to track zero

and may bring it "back to life". You can also use the transit card (if

you still have one) to push the head back (with the drive turned off, of

course). By resetting the drive with a card, you don't need to lose a

program running in the computer.

Another cause of a "dead" drive is failure of the 5 volt bridge

rectifier (CR3 in early version drives, CR1 in later drives). That part

normally runs hot and is a common failure in a 1541. When the 5 volt

supply fails, your symptoms are dim or dark red and green LEDs and drive

motor spins continuously. If the 12 volt supply fails, the motors will

not run. The easiest place to check for correct voltages in and out of

the regulators is at the diodes CR2 and CR4 located near the two

rectifiers. The anodes of those diodes are connected to the outputs of

the +5V and +12V regulators. The cathodes (designated by a line or

stripe at one end) show the unregulated source from the rectifiers that

feed the regulators.

To properly diagnose a potential problem, you have to know exactly

how the drive should respond when it's working correctly...

DRIVE POWER UP: Green power light comes on and stays on, red activity

light comes on (and spindle motor turns) for about two seconds, then red

light should go out and motor should stop.

COMPUTER POWER UP (OR RESET): Drive red light should come on and go out,

and motor should start and stop within two seconds.

READ DIRECTORY: Insert known good disk and type: LOAD"$",8 and hit the

RETURN key. The disk should spin and the head should move to track 18 and

read the directory. The screen will show: SEARCHING FOR $. If it finds it,

the screen will say READY. If the disk read fails for any reason (drive

door open, unformatted disk, bad chips in the drive, etc.), the drive red

light will flash and an error message: FILE NOT FOUND will appear. If you

read the disk error channel, it will say: 74, DRIVE NOT READY,00,00.

INITIALIZE: This command from the computer should move the head from

wherever it was to track 18 (directory) and the disk should spin. The head

will not move (but the spindle motor will turn) if it is already over

track 18. If there is no disk in the drive, or you insert an unformatted

disk, or if the drive door is open, it should cause the spindle motor to

run and the head to seek track 18 (directory) anyway. When it tries and

fails, it will pull the head back to track zero and "chatter" as it hits

the head stop, then advance to where track 18 should have been. The red

light will flash because of the drive read error. No error message will be

shown on the screen, but if you read the disk error channel, it will say:

21,READ ERROR,18,00.

FORMAT OR DISK "NEW": When you format a disk, the spindle motor will turn

and the red light will come on. The drive will pull the head back to track

zero and "chatter", then the stepper will advance to each track as it

writes from track 1 to track 35. When it finishes the format (about 1

minute 25 seconds on a stock drive), the head will return to track 18

(directory). If the format fails, the red drive light will flash, but

there will be no error message on the screen. If you read the drive error

channel, it will say: 21,READ ERROR,00,00. Format failures can be caused

by write protect, drive door open, bad disk, bad or clogged head, or bad

chips in the drive. The format will attempt to write to track 1, then do

a read, and if the read fails, the format will terminate, and the head

will not move from track 1. If it advances a few tracks and stops, suspect

a bad disk, or an intermittant connection to the head. If the drive will

read OK but fails to format a disk, check UC1, UC2, UA1, and UD2. Swap out

drive mechanics to check the head. It may test good with an ohmmeter and

read OK, but if defective, will fail to format a disk. For write-protect

problems, check UC1, UC2, UA1 and, of course, the sensor.

As mentioned above, it is sometimes helpful to read the disk drive

error channel when the drive red light is flashing. Here is a small BASIC

program (for DOS V2.0) to do that. It reads the channel, displays the

error message, and turns the drive light off.

10 OPEN 15,8,15

20 INPUT#15,EN,EM$,ET,ES

30 PRINT EN,EM$,ET,ES

40 CLOSE 15

All of the possible drive error messages are listed in the back of the

operators manual. Note that JiffyDOS provides an easy way to check the

error channel... just press the @ key, then hit RETURN.

Ray Carlsen CET

CARLSEN ELECTRONICS... a leader in trailing-edge technology.

Questions and comments are welcome, especially if you spot a mistake

here. Thanks!
 
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